Faith in Sri Guru and Aversion

By Swami B.V. Madhava

Let me start by saying that nobody here should be bewildered by those who do not have faith in Sri Guru and who therefore are unfavorably disposed. It is material conditioning from countless lifetimes of living in passion and ignorance. Still, despite their disposition, to preach the name and glories of our Sri Guru to the devotees is our obligation. Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Prabhupada instructs us to always depend on speaking the truth and conversely to reject speaking untruth which entangles one in the illusorily conception of life. We should never misappropriate the words and moods of the Acaryas. On the contrary, we must be strong and protect the Sampradaya.

Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Thakur Prabhupada says that to find a difference in tattva between the siksa and diksa guru is an offence. Both siksa and diksa guru are manifestations  of Krsna.

krsna yadi krpa kare kona bhagyavane
guru-antaryami-rupe sikhaye apane

CC Madhya 22.47

Krsna is situated in everyone’s heart as Caitya-Guru, the spiritual master within. When He is kind to some fortunate conditioned soul, He personally gives one lessons to progress in devotional service, instructing the person as the Supersoul within and the spiritual master without.

siksa-guruke ta’ jani krsnera svarupa
antaryami, bhakta-srectha, –dui rupa

CC adi 1.47

One should know the instructing spiritual master to be the Personality of Krsna. Lord Krsna manifests Himself as the Supersoul and as the greatest devotee of the Lord.

Guru krsna-rupa hana sastrera pramane – guru-rupe krsna krpa karena bhakta-gane. Diksa guru is considered to be the rupa of Krsna and siksa guru to be his svarupa. Rupa in this verse means that the diksa guru is directly the svayam rupa of Krsna and in reference to siksa guru he is the svarupa; both are non-different in tattva.

We have heard recently that there are some who are minimizing and finding fault with our Gurumaharaja, Paramaradhya Pujyapada Sri Srimad Bhaktivedanta Narayan Maharaja, the crown jewel of Vaisnavas. These persons may have memorized some select slokas and developed an uncommon intellectual capacity, but that does not give them the right to be arrogant and denigrate saintly persons. The high ideals of our Vaisnava culture have to be integrated into our practical daily life. Humility is the distinctive nature of a Vaisnava and if one is proud or arrogant, that pride will just pull them down. Sri Guru is not interested whether he gets recognition from such persons. Whether they bow down to him or not does not make any difference to him. He is transcendentally situated. Sri Guru‘s expansive glories stand on their own. He is fixed in his bhajan of the Lord. He needs no recognition from outside his already established transcendental relationships which are based on spontaneous love. His life is a perfect example for all of us and his glories will be broadcast and relished throughout the world despite what the naysayers may say or imply.

Sri Bhagavan as antaryami knows the heart of everyone. Although paramatma is present in the heart he never interferes in the independence of the jiva to perform good or bad activities, he is only present as a witness. As mentioned the Supersoul manifests externally in the form of Guru.

Although the Supersoul exists in the body along with the jivatma, He does not become implicated in the qualities of the body (the modes of nature) like the baddha-jiva does.

The baddha-jiva has aversion to Krsna since time immemorial. The aversions of conditioned souls are ingrained in their entire psyche. It does not go away easily. Like a shadow, it follows the conditioned souls wherever they go and influences everything they do. We should not be surprised at somebody’s aversion to Guru. They have this aversion to sadhu-sanga, to Vaisnavas. They have aversion to hari-katha and to service and to being a servant. They have aversion to being submissive. This conditioning has kept them here in this material world for millions of births.

This purusa-bhava is very, very hard to give up. The desire for prestige and power, which contaminates the heart is described by Srila Raghunath das Goswami in his Sri Manah-Siksa, The Teachings to The Mind. He calls such a desire for prestige, dhrsta svapaca-ramani pratisthasa – an audacious dog-eating outcaste woman. This root anartha, pratistha, unless checked, keeps one deeply rooted in the material illusory energy and firmly entrapped there despite one’s thoughtful oratory and polished presentation.

Our Gurumaharaja explains in his vritti purport of Sri Manah-siksa that, “although all other anarthas may be dispelled, the desire for pratistha is not easily removed. From this all kinds of deceit and hypocrisy arise and are gradually nourished. The desire for pratistha is called shameless, for although it is the root of all anarthas, it fails to acknowledge its own faults.”

Guru and Krsna will never keep a connection with a person who dishonors Vaisnavas.  People feel superior because of money and power. Being influenced by false ego and arrogance they put themselves above even their greatest well-wishers. They want control and don’t want a master who will guide their activities. Sri Guru’s sweetness is prominent and just as Srimati Radharani’s supreme opulence is hidden, Sri Guru’s opulence is hidden. Sri Guru is the most prominent Vaisnava but those who are spiritually blind fail to recognize it.

If someone has no master to control them, then they don’t have to be accountable to anyone.  There is no correction, no master to guide them and nobody to chastise them. They have only their friends, their peers who are all doing the same as them. When you’re just among friends, you want to enjoy. People really don’t advance much when they are just among their friends in the same group. Complacency develops. Who’s going to guide them? They will say that they are doing it for Guru and Krsna, but they are the ones wanting control of big, big projects, money and followers. Raghunath das Goswami, by his own example, taught us to carefully examine the motivation behind our actions. He was always ready to check his mind.

We should ask our self whether it is purely for the service of the Lord and His devotees or are we in it for name and fame, prestige and power?

We cannot refute all who are adverse to Sri Guru. Rupa Goswami and Sanatana Goswami did not want to debate with the scholar Dig Vijaiee, who conquered all directions, and just signed off as being defeated by him. In the same way, we should not waste our time with people who do not want to change. Sri Guru is the pure servant of Sri Krsna. His ability to transparently deliver the precise teachings of our sampradaya Acaryas is outstanding. We should read his lectures and books and try to understand the inner moods of the Acaryas as well as the solutions to our material sojourn. All tattva, all siddhanta is there. Sri Guru has come to deliver us by giving us the highest goal of our life, prema bhakti.

rahuganaitat tapasa na yati
na cejyaya nirvapanad grhad va
na cchandasa naiva jalagni-suryair
vina mahat-pada-rajo-’bhisekam

SB 5.12.12

My dear King Rahugana, unless one has the opportunity to smear his entire body with the dust of the lotus feet of great devotees, one cannot realize the Absolute Truth. One cannot realize the Absolute Truth simply by observing celibacy [brahmacaryas], strictly following the rules and regulations of householder life, leaving home as a vanaprastha, accepting sannyasa, or undergoing severe penances in winter by keeping oneself submerged in water or surrounding oneself in summer by fire and the scorching heat of the sun. There are many other processes to understand the Absolute Truth, but the Absolute Truth is only revealed to one who has attained the mercy of a great devotee.

The same point is made in Sri Prahlada caritra:

naisam matis tavad urukramanghrim
sprsaty anarthapagamo yad-arthah
mahiyasam pada-rajo-’bhisekam
niskincananam na vrnita yavat

SB 7.5.32

Unless they smear upon their bodies the dust of the lotus feet of a Vaisnava completely freed from material contamination, persons very much inclined toward materialistic life cannot be attached to the lotus feet of the Lord, who is glorified for His uncommon activities. Only by becoming Krsna conscious and taking shelter at the lotus feet of the Lord in this way can one be freed from material contamination.

There are countless examples like this.  Let us take proper shelter ourselves and not become bewildered by those who do not understand these truths and who have no faith in Sri Guru.

Tridandi biksu Bhaktivedanta Madhava

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13 Responses to Faith in Sri Guru and Aversion

  1. Tirthapada May 21, 2011 at 12:43 AM #

    Dandavats to all.
    As far as many devotees speaking about diksa and siksa being equal, the devotees of nitya-lila pravista Srila BV Narayana Maharaja Srila Gurudeva have been the most open regarding this vital point. It is not such an easy transition as I experienced it after Srila BV Swami Maharaja Prabhupada, then after Srila Sridhara Maharaj and then to Srila Gurudeva. I have had so much criticism from not only ISKCON members but even within our own sanga on coming to Srila Gurudeva. The theoretical aspect of Krishna consciousness is much more easier to embrace than the practical side, no doubt.
    So, I am wondering, without trying to be offensive, is this? Sripada Madhava Maharaja is young. Will he also accept siksa from another higher Vaisnava? I remember in the case of Sripada Bodayana Maharaja, Gurudeva told him the same, “you are young…” and went on to urge him for siksa. This is a serious matter for all of us to weigh. These are both absolute and relative considerations to harmonize. I came to Srila Gurudeva after taking siksa from Srila Sridhar Maharaj. Many kept telling me “don’t push Srila Sridhara Maharaj…” It was a very awkward situation to say the least. I suffered a lot from it. But I stayed loyal to Srila Gurudeva, knowing that all my previous gurus were in the same mood. Now, all of us find ourselves in a situation similar to mine, including Sripada Madhava Maharaj. I think rather than undermining everyone’s youth and vitality in our sanga, we should discuss the virtues, the pros and cons, and the necessity of always getting senior guidance. And we should be very vigilant about criticizing others that may go outside our sanga for siksa, due to a lack of practical show of affection. Thank you and again, my honor and respect to all Vaisnavas who served Srila Gurudeva throughout such tough times. If I offended anyone by bringing up this point regarding Sripada Madhava Maharaja, don’t mind. By opening our hearts to other Vaisnavas, then perhaps we can save each other from the hidden dangers of politics that tries to destroy the beauty that we all gained by having Srila Gurudeva’s association for a brief moment. Jaya Srila Gurudeva!

  2. Bimal Krishna das September 22, 2010 at 3:50 AM #

    Sri Sri Guru Gauranga Jayatah

    Dandavat Pranam, to your lotus feet Maharaj and to all the devotees of the Lord !

    i just want to give my appreciation for this article and the comments, as I feel refreshed, by all this beautifull Krisna Katha… so I bow down again and again to all the writers, hoping to be able to attain seva to the feet of ananta koti vaisnava vrinda… ki Jay !

    Bimal Krishna das

  3. Anirudh Kumar Satsangi May 22, 2010 at 8:39 AM #

    Thank you My Dear Mithiladhisa dasa for your very encouraging remarks to my comments. To-day a news appeared in various news papers that Craig Ventor had created artificial life. He was working over project this since very long along with his team mates. You may also have heard that Johnjoe McFadden has given a Electromagnetic Field Theory of Consciousness/Mind. We all know that Physics describes four fundamental forces in the universe. They are Gravitational Force, Electromagnetic Force, Weak Nuclear Force and Strong Nuclear Force. They are responsible for the creation of particles, subatomic structures, atomic structures, molecules,elements etc. For natural things (life etc.)to be created, natural forces (God Forces) act in natural ways. When man operates and manipulates these forces and creates some new things or old one it is said ‘artificial’. For me everything is natural. Since man is the part of nature so everything created by him, in-vivo or in-vitro, using Forces of Nature is also natural and not artificial.

    I have given a theory of consciousness and mind as below:

    “Gravitation Force is the Ultimate Creator”, I presented this paper at the 1st Int. Conf. on Revival of Traditional Yoga, held at The Lonavla Yoga Institute (India), Lonavla, Pune in 2006. The Abstract of this paper is given below:

    “The Universe includes everything that exists. In the Universe there are billions and billions of stars. These stars are distributed in the space in huge clusters. They are held together by gravitation and are known as galaxies. Sun is also a star. Various members of the solar system are bound to it by gravitation force. Gravitation force is the ultimate cause of birth and death of galaxy, star and planets etc. Gravitation can be considered as the cause of various forms of animate and inanimate existence. Human form is superior to all other forms. Withdrawal of gravitational wave from some plane of action is called the death of that form. It can be assumed that gravitation force is ultimate creator. Source of it is ‘God’. Gravitational Field is the supreme soul (consciousness) and its innumerable points of action may be called as individual soul (consciousness). It acts through body and mind. Body is physical entity. Mind can be defined as the function of autonomic nervous system. Electromagnetic waves are its agents through which it works. This can be realized through the practice of meditation and yoga under qualified meditation instruction. This can remove misunderstanding between science and religion and amongst various religions. This is the gist of all religious teachings – past, present and future.”

  4. Mithiladhisa dasa May 20, 2010 at 3:50 AM #

    Dandavat pranams my dear friend and brother!
    I am very happy to have read your beautiful explanations and I am feeling inspired. Please give more!

  5. Anirudh Kumar Satsangi May 16, 2010 at 7:18 AM #

    In Bhagavad-Gita Lord SriKrishna says to Arjuna:
    “I taught this immortal Yoga to Vivasvan (sun-god), Vivasvan conveyed it to Manu(his son), and Manu imparted it to (his son) Iksvaku. Thus transmitted to succession from father to son, Arjuna, this Yoga remained known to the Rajarisis (royal sages). It has however long since disappeared from this earth. The same ancient Yoga has this day been imparted to you by Me, because you are My devotee and friend, and also because this is a supreme secret”.
    At this Arjuna said: You are of recent origin while the birth of Vivasvan dates back to remote antiquity. How, then, I am to believe that you taught this Yoga at the beginning of creation? Lord SriKrishna said: Arjuna, you and I have passed through many births. I remember them all, you do not remember.
    1. Radha Soami Faith was founded by His Holiness Param Purush Puran Dhani Huzur Soamiji Maharaj on the prayer of His Holiness Huzur Maharaj who later on became second Spiritual Head of Radha Soami Faith. The prime object of the Radha Soami Faith is the emancipation of all Jeevas (Souls) i.e. to take the entire force of consciousness to its original abode. There is a tradition of succession of Gurus or Spiritual Adepts in Radha Soami Faith. I am one of them as is evident from the following facts or ….
    “My most Revered Guru of my previous life His Holiness Maharaj Sahab, 3rd Spiritual Head of Radhasoami Faith had revealed this secret to me during trance like state.
    HE told me, “Tum Sarkar Sahab Ho” (You are Sarkar Sahab). Sarkar Sahab was one of the most beloved disciple of His Holiness Maharj Sahab. Sarkar Sahab later on became Fourth Spiritual Head of Radhasoami Faith.
    Since I don’t have any direct realization of it so I can not claim the extent of its correctness. But it seems to be correct. During my previous birth I wanted to sing the song of ‘Infinite’ (Agam Geet yeh gawan chahoon tumhri mauj nihara, mauj hoi to satguru soami karoon supanth vichara) but I could not do so then since I had to leave the mortal frame at a very early age. But through the unbounded Grace and Mercy of my most Revered Guru that desire of my past birth is being fulfilled now.”
    1. Surat Shabd Yoga is a type of meditation in which we concentrate to meditate at sixth chakra. Surat Shabd Yoga is 3-in-1. It is a comprehensive yoga practice in which all the three yoga viz., mantra yoga (repetition of holy name), dhyan yoga (contemplation or meditation) and shabd or nad yoga are combined. Scientific significance of practice of Surat Shabd Yoga can be understood from my following comments:
    PRACTICE OF YOGA AND DEVELOPMENT OF SPIRITUAL QUOTIENT
    Religion and Yoga reflect identical meaning. Religion (re-ligare) means union again with Ultimate Reality or binding back to Absolute. Yoga is the derivative of Sanskrit root ‘yuj’ which means yoking of power of body, mind and soul. Yoga primarily consists of concentration, meditation and realization apart from practicing asans, mudras and breath control which help to achieve concentration and physical and emotional well-being. Yoga is experimental technique of spiritualism. Religion is blend of ritual and spiritual. Rituals dominate religion these days. Whereas rituals are altogether not necessary for practicing yoga.
    Yoga in India has been practiced since the dawn of the human civilization, according to Hindu mythology millions of year back.
    In Bhagavad-Gita Lord SriKrishna says to Arjuna:
    “I taught this immortal Yoga to Vivasvan (sun-god), Vivasvan conveyed it to Manu(his son), and Manu imparted it to (his son) Iksvaku. Thus transmitted to succession from father to son, Arjuna, this Yoga remained known to the Rajarisis (royal sages). It has however long since disappeared from this earth. The same ancient Yoga has this day been imparted to you by Me, because you are My devotee and friend, and also because this is a supreme secret”.
    At this Arjuna said: You are of recent origin while the birth of Vivasvan dates back to remote antiquity. How, then, I am to believe that you taught this Yoga at the beginning of creation? Lord SriKrishna said: Arjuna, you and I have passed through many births. I remember them all, you do not remember.
    Famous historian Romila Thapar has described in her book A History of India about the status of Yoga in 300-700 A.D. She writes: “Yoga (Application) which was based on the control of the body physically and implied that a perfect control over the body and the senses led to knowledge of the ultimate reality. A detailed anatomical knowledge of the human body was necessary to the advancement of yoga and therefore those practising yoga had to keep in touch with medical knowledge.”
    As far as anatomical knowledge of human body is concerned it is very much required for the optimum result during practice of Yoga. Yoga system has very close connection with the human anatomy i.e. chakra or nerve centres distributed along the spinal column and in brain region.
    Besides, connection chakras with the practice of Yoga, chakra has also great role in the development of personality. People do not realise that personalities can grow to include a balance of all the six chakras. Jung referred to this growth process as “individuation”, and associated it with life’s spiritual dimension. Danah Zohar evolves a model of spiritual quotient (sq) based on the six petals of a lotus and its centre, corresponding to the seven chakras described by the Hinduism’s Kundalini Yoga, as an aid to the process of individuation in the mid-1990s. Contribution of Danah Zohar for coining the term spiritual quotient for the first time is immense. But she did not establish any mathematical relationship, which is very much required, for this quotient.
    Deepak Chopra has given a formula of spiritual quotient in terms of Deed (D) and Ego (E). According to Deepak Chopra S.Q. =D/E. He (2006) writes: If Vedanta is right and there is only one reality, then all desires must follow the same mechanics, desires arise and are fulfilled in consciousness. Making yourself happy involves ….. I have a ” Spiritual Quotient” where SQ = D/E. Where D = Deeds and E = Ego. Now you can ONLY have an SQ = infinity when E = 0. If E is little even then SQ is approaching infinity (or one is close to be a “Great Master”) but not actually “Pure .This appears to be very fascinating but it is highly abstract which cannot be measured experimentally, accurately and precisely. However, this formula has immense value to understand S.Q.
    I have also discovered a mathematical relationship for S.Q about eight years back in 2001. I have used physiological parameters which can be measured accurately and precisely and can be tested and verified experimentally. According to this formula S.Q. can be expressed as the ratio of parasympathetic dominance (P.D.) to sympathetic dominance (S.D.). Parasympathetic nervous system (PSNS) and sympathetic nervous system (SNS) are the two parts of the autonomic nervous system (ANS) which is largely under hypothalamic control. Hypothalamus is situated very close to the Sixth Chakra. During practice of meditation at Sixth Chakra these centres are galvanized which has very positive effect on practitioners spiritual, emotional, psychological and physical well being.
    According to this relationship spiritual quotient can be written as:
    S.Q. = P.D./S.D.
    If the value of S.Q. comes >1 (greater than one), it can be assumed that the person is moving towards self-realisation and if the value of S.Q. comes <1 (smaller than one) it can be predicted that the person is living under stress.
    There are various types of meditation available, which are being practiced by sages, saints, seers and others. The difference in various versions lies in the fact that these practices involve concentration to meditate at different centres known as Chakra in Yoga System. These chakras are, in fact, energy centres which correspond to nerve centres distributed along the spinal column and in brain region.
    Some practitioners start to meditate at Basic/Root Chakra (Muladhara) – situated at the base of spine, some at Heart Chakra (Anahata Chakra), some at Ajna Chakra – Optic Chiasma – Master Chakra and some from even higher centres situated in the brain region. Among all these types of meditation, practice at sixth chakra is considered to be the most ideal which brings about optimum results.
    Sixth Chakra is situated very close to hypothalamus. The hypothalamus is a portion of brain that contains a number of small nuclei with a variety of functions. One of the most important functions of the hypothalamus is to link nervous system to the endocrine system via the pituitary glands.
    Autonomic nervous system (ANS) is largely under hypothalamic control. ANS consists of parasympathetic nervous system (PSNS) and sympathetic nervous system (SNS). PSNS is activated during meditative calm and during stress SNS is activated. When PSNS is activated, heart rate, breathing rate, blood pressure decreased. Supply of blood in the digestive tract increased. When SNS is activated heart rate, breathing rate, blood pressure increased. Supply of blood to the muscles and exterior organs increased and to the digestive tract decreased. In addition to these, there are many other parameters which can be compared. Parasympathetic Dominance (P.D.) is the state of PSNS activation and Sympathetic Dominance (S.D.) is the state of SNS activation. Instruments are available in medical science to measure these parameters.
    Now we can assign numerical value to each parameter. Then put the value in the formula for S.Q. and see the result. We can show the calculation as mentioned below:
    S.Q.= P.D./S.D. = Σ X / Σ Y
    Where X=x1+x2+x3+ …….
    And Y=y1+y2+y3+…….
    During PSNS activation (P.D.), we assign ‘1’ to each parameter (x1+x2+x3+…..) and ‘0’ to each parameter (y1+y2+y3+…..). During SNS activation (S.D.), we assign ‘1’ to each parameter (y1+y2+y3+…) and ‘0’ to each parameter (x1+x2+x3+….).
    By putting the numerical value, thus achieved, in the above formula for S.Q. we can calculate the Spiritual Quotient of an individual.
    .

  6. Brajendranandana Dasa May 7, 2010 at 7:28 AM #

    My prostrated dandavats at the feet of Sripad Madhava Mahsraja who’s calibre of Guruseva is reminiscent of the great Vaisnava examples of visrambha guruseva that we hear about in the scriptures and discourses by our acaryas.He is now also teaching us all how to deal with aparadha to our beloved Gurudeva philosophically and practically.In Iskcon we saw that those who made a campaign to denigrate the deviant leaders in Iskcon also went down themselves.——–Srila Prabhupada states in his purport Caitanya Caritamrta Adi 1-Text 35:”…..If one thinks he is above consulting anyone else,including a spiritual master,he is at once an offender at the Lotus feet of the Lord……..Sri Jiva Goswami advises that one not accept a spiritual master in terms..ecclesiastical[ie institutional] conventions.One vshould simply try to find a genuinely qualified spiritual master for actual advancement in spiritual understanding.”—I feel causelessly blessed that somehow or other I have come to the lotus feet of our Srila Gurudeva and his near and dear and have been rescued from taking a stand against pure bhakti and pure bhaktas in the name of institutionalism.May they continue to protect us from such a calamity.—-Praying for the mercy of Hari,Guru and Vaisnavas—Brajendranandana Dasa

  7. Jayanta Dasa May 6, 2010 at 2:03 AM #

    My dear Madhava Maharaja,

    Please accept my loving dandavats at your lotus feet ! Sri Guru Gauranga Jayatah ! All glories to Sri Sri Radha Vinode Bihariji !
    Maharaja, I’ve always had fond memories of you through these years
    from when I first took shelter of Gurudeva in 1998 and you were still
    Naveen Krsna Brahmachari. I’ve watched in amazement the high level
    of Guruseva you’ve performed for our most beloved Gurudeva. You are an embodiment of how we should serve Sri Guru with all our body, mind and words ! I’ve cried whenever I remember how merciful you were to me, a fallen, worthless, conditioned soul, through the years. If we can all have even a triliionth of a trillionth of a trillionth of the Guruseva that you possess, than our lives would be a success !
    I’ve very much enjoyed reading your article in defence of our most beloved Guru Maharaja, and I am amazed at the clarity and high level
    of understanding of tattva, as well as the sober presentation from one unperturbed but resolved against people who are averse to Sri Guru. You are one of the very, very, very few moons among Gurudeva’s suns !

    With regards to the aversion to Gurudeva by the deviant GBC, I’ve read the following from “Sri Bhagavatarka Marici Mala” by Srila Bhaktivinode Thakur :

    13th Ray Text 26

    nascaryam etad yad asatsu sarvada
    mahad-vininda kunapatma-vadisu
    sersyam mahapurusa pada pamsubhir
    nirasta tejahsu tad eva sobhanam

    There are ten offenses against the chanting of the Holy Name. Among them, blasphemy of the Devotees is the principle one. This is being
    described here. Those who accept a material body made of the gross elements as their self, blaspheme great saintly persons. There is nothing astonishing about this. The devotees do not retaliate or take revenge, but the dust from Their Lotus Feet categorically elimi-
    nates the prowess of those offenders of the Vaisnavas. This is indeed
    proper.

    13th Ray Text 27

    karmany akovidah stabdha
    murkhah pandita maninah
    vadanti catukan mudha
    yaya madhvya girotsukah

    rajasa ghora sankalpa
    kamuka ahi manyavah
    dambhika maninah papa
    vihasanty acyuta priyam

    Those who are attached to fruitive activities, who are foolish and who proudly consider themselves learned become overwhelmed by the word jugglery of karma kanda. Being puffed up by those flowery words,
    they become greatly attached to the mode of passion, lusty, angry as
    a snake, proud and sinful. Thus they dare to blaspheme the pure devotees of Lord Sri Krsna.

    13th Ray Text 28

    sriya vibhutyabhijanena vidyaya
    tyagena rupena balena karmana
    jata-smayenandha dhiya sahesvaran
    sato ‘vamanyanti hari priyan khalah

    Less intelligent, cheaters become puffed up by their mundane wealth, mystic power, high birth, academic qualifications, renunciation, beauty, strength, and actions and insults the Supreme Lord and His Dear Devotees.

    13th Ray Text 29

    brahmams tad gaccha bhadram te
    nabhaga tanayam nrpam

    Oh, brahmana, you are suffering because you have commited an offense
    against the son of Nabhaga. You will attain peace of mind only if he forgives you.

    If such a formidable offense is committed by a person (s), then he can be relieved of his offenses only if the person (pure devotee)
    offended forgives him.

    So, my dear Madhava Maharaja, Srila Bhaktivinode Thakur, describes these maha, maha aparadhis against the Lotus Feets Of Srila Gurudeva to a T !
    All glories to your Guruseva, maharaja ! All glories to Srila Gurudeva ! All glories to Srila Prabhupada ! Hare Krsna ! Jaya, Jaya Sri Radhe !!!

    Aspiring for the mercy of Hari, Guru and Vaisnavas,
    Jayanta das

  8. murali dhar May 4, 2010 at 2:55 PM #

    I like BV Madhava Mah classes. There are very introspective, practical and very helpful in day to day life

    hariboll!!

  9. Damodara dasa May 4, 2010 at 2:49 AM #

    Dandavat pranams Swami B.V. Madhava,

    Great presentation of the necessity of guru(s)as our guides to spiritual advancement. It’s a difficult process for those of us who have minimal samskars, or transcendental impressions and sukriti.

    I am very interested in hearing more from you about how noviate bhaktas can avoid making big mistakes, such as vaishnav aparadha and nam aparadha.

    Thank you very much for the informative article. Jai Radhe!

  10. Narayanashram Austria May 3, 2010 at 12:49 PM #

    Dandavats!
    Sri Sri Guru Gauranga Jayatah!
    This most needed clarifying statement of Srila BV Madhava Maharaj is to our hearts like a cooling breeze of love in the scorching heat of endless bewildering arguments. It soothes the mind and frees us from entanglement in unnecessary worries, thus enabling us to continue with our bhajan in an undisturbed way.
    SRILA GURUDEVA KI JAI!

  11. shashikala dasi May 3, 2010 at 8:11 AM #

    HARE KRISHNA!

    My most grateful obeisances to Srila B.V.Madhava Maharaja.

    CRYSTAL CLEAR!

    Please Vaisnava Thakur bless me so that very honestly and sincerely, i may be able to always pray and cry for the greatest mercy of Sri Guru and Vaisnavas, who only can protect us on this most royal path of Pure VRAJA BHAKTI.

    I am blind and lame, but Their causeless compassion upon all most wretched soul , is my only hope and shelter in this dangerous world of greatest forgetfulness.

    Sri Guru Nistha & Guru Seva , nothing more extraordinary and merciful in this Material world.
    Only by very high bhakti sukriti accumulated through countless lifetime , can one receive such divine grace.
    O eternal Associates of the Lord and supremly effulgent MAHABHAGAVAT Sri Guru and Vaisnavas, after such long and tiring journey ,i finally reached You. Please accept me and eternally keep me as a particle of dust at your most transcendental Lotus Feet who are the only ETERNAL AUSPICIOUSNESS and meaning of everyone’s life .
    SRILA GURUDEVA KI JAYA!
    SRI VAISNAVAS TAHKUR KI JAYA!

  12. BV Suddhadvaiti Swami May 3, 2010 at 8:10 AM #

    I offer my humble dandavats at the feet of Sripad BV Madhava Maharaja for his masterful prsentation of the subject.
    The Savior of Jerusalem, as Thakura Bhaktivinoda called J.Christ, adised not to give pearls to the swine…

  13. Tarunkrsna Das May 2, 2010 at 10:23 PM #

    I cannot but agree more to the conclusion offered by Swami B. V. Madhav Maharaja. In our sincere desire to please Sri Gruu, we often come across such people who are averse to Sri Guru. The difficulty is to distinguish those who will change with assoication and those who will not in this life time and rather waste our time.

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